<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><title>Ju Lin's AI Weblog: Moe</title><subtitle>An independent research notebook on AI engineering, agents, models and the systems around them.</subtitle><id>https://julin.ai/atom/tags/moe/index.xml</id><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="https://julin.ai/atom/tags/moe/index.xml"/><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://julin.ai/tags/moe/"/><author><name>Ju Lin</name></author><updated>2026-08-21T00:00:00+12:00</updated><entry><title>Pretraining a Mini Kimi K3 for $252</title><id>https://julin.ai/2026/08/21/mini-k3/</id><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://julin.ai/2026/08/21/mini-k3/"/><published>2026-08-21T00:00:00+12:00</published><updated>2026-08-21T00:00:00+12:00</updated><category term="pretraining"/><category term="moe"/><category term="kimi"/><category term="field-notes"/><content type="html">&lt;p&gt;Vizuara AI Labs trained a miniature Kimi K3 from scratch: 1.02B parameters, 145M active, 5B tokens, one H200, $252.35.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not simplifying the architecture like &lt;a href="https://karpathy.github.io/2026/02/12/microgpt/"&gt;Karpathy&amp;rsquo;s microgpt&lt;/a&gt;, they kept &lt;a href="https://books.vizuara.ai/book/pretraining-a-mini-k3"&gt;Kimi K3&amp;rsquo;s MoE and attention design&lt;/a&gt; intact.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That&amp;rsquo;s a surprisingly cheap way to learn pretraining (in real-world). They worked through expert collapse, data-mixing bugs, distributed-training bugs, kernels, and GPU utilization on a modern MoE architecture.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A few things worth noting:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;5B tokens is probably too little for a 1B model. The authors agree the run was budget constrained. So the cheap cost might due to the training stopped early.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Beating GPT-2 isn&amp;rsquo;t particularly meaningful when Mini K3 has roughly 10× the parameters.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MoE at this scale is debatable. A smaller dense model trained on more tokens would likely be better if the goal was capability.&lt;/li&gt;
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